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Registered:: 12-19-2000
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Originally posted by <90%Attitude>:
Good grief, people! Who lost here? Anyone at all? As far as I can tell, Ice Dancing will be the hottest venue by far in 2006. The Russians are far more bankable than they would have been with only a single gold medal. The Canadians are more bankable than they would have been with either a silver OR a solitary gold.

I think you mean "Pairs", not "Ice Dancing."

As far as the ice dancing last night went, the French won, deservedly. The Russians got 2nd, deservedly. The Canadians got 4th, although I thought they could have been third after the Italian guy tripped on his toe pick and went splat on the straight line footwork in the middle of their program.

Laura
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Pairs - ah, yes. Duh! So it is. I get like that when I rant. But I sure do have a good time! [Big Grin]

I didn't have any problems with the results last night. I could've done without the MLK speech in the background, but they seem to have meant well by it, and they were fascinating to watch.

Isn't it weird how many people stay absolutely glued to a sport hardly anyone actually participates in? I mean, it's not as if this is a sport we all played in school, or anything.



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Location: san jose, ca
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[Smile] one of my friends suggested from now on we give gold metals for participation in the olympics. That way no one gets screwed..

-Mike
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Originally posted by <90%Attitude>:
Isn't it weird how many people stay absolutely glued to a sport hardly anyone actually participates in? I mean, it's not as if this is a sport we all played in school, or anything.

it's all about curiosity..
I've been pretty avidly watching the olympics, but for most of the events, once every 4 years is about right (with the exclusion of the men's figure skating)..

it also helps that this is the big game..
When these events are broadcast outside of the olympics, it doesn't really seem like the pressure is on (ballroom is the same way..it's kind of like just another competition)...

-Mike



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Tank?s god Canadians tripped otherwise we would have a second round.
Litvenian couple file the complain that Canadian tripped and they (LItvenians) should be 4 . Do media care? Do we care? And French judge in the official statement yesterday denied any wrong doing, she believe that Russian couple was better. This was her only official statement. She never said anything about it before. ICO couldn?t handle the pressure from media and open the door for series of complains in every judging sports. Every time you feel like you was robed file complain, the only problem is that without media support it my take a long time before someone will even talk to you.
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Location: Regina, SK, Canada
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More fuel for the fire. The following an story on the wire this morning.

Blair
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February 19, 2002

Skating Officials Swap Accusations
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 2:31 p.m. ET

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- On a day the International Skating Union leader called a ``great moment for us'' as he proposed a revolutionary new judging system, two figure skating officials swapped ugly accusations about their roles in reform and the lingering Olympic scandal.

An ISU vice president said Didier Gailhaguet, the head of the French skating federation, had pressured judges in the past and should be kicked out of the ISU if he forced a French judge to cheat last week at the Olympics.

``As far I know, it is not the first time for Didier to make such pressure. There were other cases in the past,'' said Katsuichiro Hisanaga of Japan, the highest-ranking figure skating official in the ISU.

He did not detail other cases, but said Gailhaguet should be thrown off the ISU executive council if its members believe judge Marie-Reine Le Gougne's accusation that he urged her to vote for a Russian couple in pairs skating.

Told of Hisanaga's comments, Gailhaguet denied pressuring any judge.

``Very honestly, if there is someone at the table of the council who had better shut up, I think it is Mr. Hisanaga,'' he said. ``Because Mr. Hisanaga, since he has been vice president of the ISU, has brought about no reform whatsoever, no single positive point for the ISU.

``Overall, the competence of Mr. Hisanaga is left wanting.''

The exchange came as the ISU council discussed changes to the subjective judging system used in figure skating events worldwide. The system has drawn harsh criticism since the pairs event last week, which led to Le Gougne's suspension for misconduct and a second set of gold medals for Canadians Jamie Sale and David Pelletier.

ISU president Ottavio Cinquanta said an internal investigation is underway. One of the witnesses contacted Tuesday by the ISU was Jon Jackson, an ISU championship judge and an attorney from San Francisco.

Jackson wrote a letter to the ISU last Wednesday detailing what he described as an emotional and spontaneous ``confession'' by Le Gougne in a hotel lobby about an hour after the pairs competition.

``I was right there. She came right up to Sally Stapleford (an ISU council member) and said, 'Ice dancing is ruining the sport of figure skating. I have to defend myself. I did this for my dance team. It's a deal with the Russians, first place for first place.'

``She was very clear and unequivocal. There was no misunderstanding. She's a very bright woman and she speaks perfect English. I walked away feeling they're finally going to crack open corruption in figure skating. I had just witnessed a very clear confession.''

Jackson said he wrote a letter to the ISU about the incident after watching Cinquanta's news conference Wednesday.

``It sounded like maybe he didn't have all the information,'' Jackson said. ``It was surprising to me.''

Cinquanta announced a plan Monday to swap the current system with one that relies on a simpler grading system and a computer's random selection of scores. That way, judges wouldn't know beforehand whose scores would be used.

But the plan must be studied before it can be approved. One thing that remains in front of the ISU is the skating scandal.

Cinquanta, who comes from the sport of speedskating, said Gailhaguet would be interviewed by a special commission appointed by the ISU to get to the bottom of what happened and determine whether Gailhaguet bears responsibility.

``We punished her because she admitted having done this,'' he said of Le Gougne. ``If Mr. Gailhaguet or another one would admit a mistake we will also punish him.''

Apart from being French figure skating president, Gailhaguet is also the French team chief at the Olympics, the second-highest post under French Olympic federation president Henri Serandour.

Gailhaguet was asked to leave the meeting when other members reviewed Le Gougne's statements that he pressured her to vote for the Russians. She provided the swing vote in a 5-4 decision that gave the gold to the Russian couple over Sale and Pelletier.

Le Gougne wanted to tell the ISU her version of what happened but she was not allowed to appear before the 11-member council's closed session.

Speaking publicly for the first time since the event, Le Gougne told the French sports daily L'Equipe over the weekend that she had never made a deal involving the pairs competition.

However, Cinquanta said Le Gougne admitted wrongdoing after an interview with him and others that was conducted ``extremely professionally.''

``I think she was under the best conditions,'' he said. ``Obviously she wasn't happy. But what she said and what she signed was something that she reviewed. She looked at it.''

Others criticized Le Gougne's claim that she was verbally attacked by Stapleford, the ISU technical committee chairwoman, at a hotel following the pairs skate.

Jackson called Le Gougne's version of what happened inaccurate.

Jackson also laughed off Le Gougne's assertion that Stapleford came up with the idea that the French judge may have been pressured to vote as she did by Gailhaguet and that Stapleford was part of a Canadian conspiracy to support Sale and Pelletier.

Stapleford was born in Britain, grew up there and still lives in London, but also has a Canadian passport because her father was Canadian.

``When accusations get that ridiculous,'' Jackson said, ``it's an indication that people are running scared.''

Stapleford also denied Le Gougne's allegation Monday, saying she saw Le Gougne in the hotel and she ``ran off in a very emotional state.''

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EDITOR'S NOTE -- Belgium-based AP sports writer Raf Casert contributed to this story.



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Classy bunch, aren't they?
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Actually, this is getting to be more and more like Jerry Springer, but with leotards.



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